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Re: Just Ordered a 2010 Equinox [maxiumpete]
by greeneyespsu on Mon Aug 17 15:35:34 PDT 2009
People shouldn't be concerned about first-year model cars. Nowadays, even totally new models (not just redesigns) are generally forged from parts of other cars that have been highly acclaimed. For example, the engine in the 2010 Camaro is the same as the larger V6 of the Cadillac CTS, the V8 Camaro is a corvette block, the award-winning LS3 engine, and is built on the ZETA II chasis. The Equinox shares the same engine as the Malibu, the seat frames are from the Cadillac CTS. The list goes on and on. Just because this is the first year a car is being produced for sale doesn't mean it's the first year the car has been on the road. Many cars being sold now for the first year have been secretly on the road as "drones" for many years (not for sale of course, but used by the manufacturer).
Re: just recieved internet quote for 2009 malibu LS [steven39]
by mikemartin on Sun May 31 14:52:30 PDT 2009
Those prices aren't that good. I am seeing LS, LT and LT1 trims sell for about $2,500 to $3,000 below MSRP, but the kicker is that I have a friend who works at a dealership (that sells Chevy among three other brands), and he's told me sales have literally tanked in the last two weeks as people await GM's bankruptcy filing tomorrow. No one knows how the act of filing is going to affect foot traffic or confidence in even GM's formerly better selling cars like the Malibu and CTS. Wait and see... I would NOT buy a Malibu now if at all possible to avoid it.
Trade In Value and Negotiation
by pao on Mon Apr 20 08:13:42 PDT 2009
jjf:..just curious what you do.....are you a car dealer?....most of your messages are cut and paste on the same issues across the board.....Scion, Honda, Hyundai, and the Chevy forum here.... IMO no dealer is going to enter a car negotiation deal based on what the car is going to be worth in a year....depreciation is a fact of life on a car the second it rolls off the lot......if you are trading cars every 2-3 years...then yes.....it may be a factor....and your are definitely losing money..(again my opinion) if someone is doing that....most people today I beleive consider an auto purchase a long term investment (5-7 years at a min) and dont worry about trade in value.....I for one dont...as I tend tor drive the cars until they are not worth the effort or expense to repair anymore...... most dealers are willing to work at our slightly above invoice, and then add in the incentives ongoing at the time.....the Malibu seems to be a seller for GM right now just as the CTS is, paper ads are one thing, but getting into the dealer and getting that number is another.....
leasing
by vanman1 on Sun Apr 19 15:50:04 PDT 2009
Agreed. That said, a friend leased a CTS last month through a 3rd party. He took the cash deal and the lease payments aren't too bad though obviously not as good as the old 0.9% leases. I feel lucky also. I got 0% for 72 months in September through GMAC on my 08 Malibu. They killed the deal 3 days after I took delivery my sales rep told me. I suspect 3rd party lease companies will finance a Malibu because it is a good car that will likely hold it's value better than most GM cars.
Re: Finalized My Purchase - Rochester, NY Malibu LT w/1LT [rik4]
by pao on Thu Feb 05 09:36:22 PST 2009
missed that one caveat...joining the National Military Family Association (NMFA)..interesting....they must need more members in the CU.... not worried about credit rating....was looking to replace my 04 Malibu Maxx with 137K on it last Sept with the new malibu....and ended up in an 09 Cadillac CTS...and keeping the Maxx.......go figure..... :)
Re: Chevy Malibu lifeline??? [malexbu]
by pao on Wed Dec 17 12:33:23 PST 2008
most dealerships are independent franchises...so they will still be around to service cars... For how long? Some five years ago, there were three GMC/Pontiac/Buick dealerships in the ten-miles' zone around where I live. Now? Zero. this my exact point of what is the problem...why does there need to be 3 of the same dealerships within 10 miles of one another....GM has over 7K dealerships, Toyota less than 2k if Im not mistaken....perhaps less..... Five years ago, I owned and valued a Pontiac Bonneville -- but I would not buy a Pontiac or Buick at any discount these days. The issue is not so much a quality -- but where would I service it? Again....too many models, too many frames that arent making $$ or are duplicates of others...GMC is Chevy rebadged....Buick....sells well overseas but not here, stay wtih the Cadillac line...Pontiac...make it the rear wheel drive niche muscle division the small ones will close, the larger urban ones will survive.... Doesn't look like it's the case with Pontiac/Buicks, does it? All other things equal, the lower a make's dealers density, the lower the brand's attraction. And things are by far not equal, not to GM's advantage. When did you last see a person dreaming of purchasing a Buick? Agree,,,get rid of the Buick in the US...keep it an overseas model Chevy seems to be the only GM's brand with a meaningful chance of survival -- but I am not quite sure it will, either. No matter how much I love my current two Bu's, had I had to buy another car now, I doubt it would be anything American. To hell with my GM Card points, to hell with the discounts -- I have zero confidence that potential problems would be resolved in acceptable time and in a reasonable distance from home. (I am saying this as a delighted customer of three Chevy dealerships around now -- but one of these dealerships also bought a GMC/Pontiac/Buick business just three years ago... Took them about a year to shut it down -- no demand.) I beleive GM will survive in some form....I just bought an 09 Cadillac CTS in Sept, but will have to slim down....Cadillac, Chevy, Pontiac and Saturn maybe? the union has a choice here....take the concessions and not wait until 2010 when they kick in anyway..... Oh, no, they don't. Not anymore. GM cars have to be given out for next to nothing in order to be taken en masse. This is not going to happen for various reasons, so the union will have to find another place to make their choices at. Ah, if only they fought for quality when it mattered, how much happier we all would be these days... wil be interesting to see what the UAW does under restructing of the auto companies if it occurs..

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